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Pedagogy Speaker Series: 'Teaching and Talking About Race,' with Joey Oteng - Shared screen with speaker view
Jason Keiber
27:09
Hello all!
Chisomo Selemani
27:31
Hello! It's wonderful to see everyone!
Tom Sutton
29:19
Hi folks! Welcome!
James McCargar
29:50
Hi!
James McCargar
34:03
Awesome!
Christie Needham (She/Her)
34:09
Great!
Kelly Coble
34:11
Surviving, which feels pretty good!
Andrea Christoff
38:05
I love that story about Serena Williams!
Karen Kaye
39:57
Karen
Karen Kaye
40:06
She,her, hers
Karen Kaye
40:19
World Religion in Undergrad changed me
Brennan Murphy
40:26
Brennan
deb esty
40:34
Deb. She/her/hers. Psychology of women in undergrad
Kelly Coble
40:36
Kelly, He/Him, favorite class Phenomenology and Existentialism.
Jessica Narum
40:39
Jess, she/her, American Minimal Music (first semester of grad work)
Helen
40:41
Helen, She/Her, Process Engineering
Jill Fleisher
40:42
Jill, she/her, Micro Sociological Theory
Lisa Henderson
40:42
Lisa, She Her, Children's Literature
Indira Gesink
40:45
She/her Best class ever: 3rd year Arabic in Cairo
Mary Dobrea Grindahl
40:45
Mary, she/her/ fForm and analysis, junior year of college at BW. Changed my life as a musician.
Lewis Sage
40:45
Lewis he/him best class taken: church history
Annette Trierweiler
40:45
Annette, she/hers, Biogeochemistry
Christina Fuhrmann
40:45
Shakespeare!
Matthew Feinberg
40:46
Matt He/his/him J-term class on Jorge Luis Borges.
Julie Christman
40:48
Julie, she/her/hers, Calculus II
James McCargar
40:49
Jim McCargar (he/him), Associate Dean and Professor of Chemistry, I teach physical chemistry and general chemistry! From Potsdam NY and I too am a Kent State alumnus (PhD)
Laurie Willis
40:51
Laurie she/her Women's U.S History undergrad
Brennan Murphy
41:00
he/him Calculus
Paul Cary
41:00
Sakespeare at CWRU
Molly Swiger
41:03
Molly, she/her, postmodern phl
DeniseiMac
41:04
Denise Kohn, she/her/, 19th century American Women Writers
Jason Keiber
41:06
Jason, He/Him, Philosophy of Science
Gene Willet
41:06
Literature of Desire
Kent Cleland
41:07
Kent; he/him; Media in Literature
Beth Hiser
41:07
The Meaning of Absolute Music
Lalene Kay
41:08
Lalene
Rachel Paschal
41:08
Rachel. she/hers. Shakespeare.
Lalene Kay
41:12
She her hers
Alejandra Gonzalez she/her/hers
41:15
Alejandra (she/her) Interventions for social justice
Colleen Visconti
41:17
Colleen, she/her/hers; research design
kristen catrina
41:22
Kristen Catrina She, her, hers,
Lalene Kay
41:25
Art for Elementary Teachers
Andi Lyons
41:28
Andi she/her, Non-Verbal Communication
Christie Needham (She/Her)
41:35
Christie Needham, she/her, intro to communication disorders, clinical practicum
Tony Dick
41:40
Tony He/Him Malcolm & Martin: A Comparative Study
Chisomo Selemani (she/her)
42:10
Chisomo Selemani, she/her, Counseling in Communication Sciences and Disorders
Erica Lull
42:11
Erica (she/her/hers), Advanced Typography
Sungeun Kim
42:15
Sungeun, She/her, Ethics&religion in middle school
Terry Martin
42:42
Terry Martin, he/him, The Landmark Forum (although it does have a cult-like quality)
LLH
43:06
Les (he, his, him): Sovereignty, Violence, and State
jgarriso
52:11
if you want me to be real...RE: American dreamAgent: kindergarten teacherInstitution: elementary school in one of the most racist places in America, home of the modern white power movement (1488, The Order)Messages Received: you don't belong here (she refused to teach me how to write on principle)Impact: I don't write like a normal person. Can't hold a pen right.
Andrea Christoff
53:55
American dream is first for men. Women are meant to support the men's dreams.
Joey Oteng
54:24
Thank you so much for sharing - appreciate these responses!
deb esty
54:26
White middle class - higher ed - parents - will go on to higher ed; knew how to help me navigate - small schools. As a female - used to messages to downplay smartness so contradicting message
jgarriso
54:29
I forgot to mention that this was during the 1988 Presidential primary, and I thought that Jesse Jackson's loss meant that I was going to lose in the race war that was my kindergarten.
James McCargar
55:04
Higher Education is not for someone from a poor, working class background. Guidance counselor told me if I studied hard, I'd graduate from high school.
Tom Sutton
56:29
Incarceration: I worked for five years with teens being released from Ohio Dept. of Youth Services, and with ex-offenders who served as their mentors. This deeply affected my perspective on the courts system, its biases, and the power of redemption and second chances. I've been suspicious about and wary of the courts ever since.
Kelly Coble
58:00
Grew up on military bases and went to schools that served a very diverse body of students. That was a great thing. But the teachers were almost all white, and diversity, racism and so on virtually NEVER came up as a theme in classes--U.S. history, etc.
Julie Robinson
59:16
love the music selections
Joey Oteng
59:45
Thank you - 80s & 90s music is what I study to. Lionel Richie and Diana Ross always get me!
Indira Gesink
01:00:59
World CIV 1500-present syllabus: The canon of subjects taught in this class tends to be Eurocentric and male oriented. I've been unhappy with it for a long time but feel hemmed in by the textbooks available and the fact that I have to train high school teachers who will be tested on that canon to get their licenses. I want to teach canon AND the marginal voices.
Lewis Sage
01:01:42
Started in kindergarten in Washington DC in 1955.
James McCargar
01:02:07
I should ask my students for their feedback on my syllabus.
Matthew Feinberg
01:02:24
Our current curriculum breaks literature in Spanish into a Latin America track and a Spain track (as in many departments). We are working to break down this organization.
Andrea Christoff
01:02:25
My field is social studies education and has traditionally centered white males and I'm trying to incorporate more women and Black and Brown people.
DeniseiMac
01:02:30
I should have Zoom guest speakers—help to show multiple perspectives
James McCargar
01:02:31
What would they add? Remove?
Kelly Coble
01:02:32
I have made substantial changes to reading lists in my courses this semester. (Pretty late to do this but never too late?) The Existentialism reading list is dramatically different from former years, with Wright, Baldwin, Fanon, A. Davis and other writers of color featured prominently--not just at the margins. International Ethics gives more attention to the histories of racism and colonialism. Environmental Ethics spends more time on environmental and climate justice issues.
Indira Gesink
01:02:49
Example: who first circumnavigated the globe? Not Magellan, but his body slave from Malacca named "Black Henry."
Terry Martin
01:03:33
The Survey of American Lit emphasizes diversity, and I have also taught African American Lit. But I have traditionally taught Lit Theory as a Historical Survey, and so the diversity comes only in the latter half, but one African American student expressed discontent with regard to the selection, and his words have remained with me. I think I'm going to revise that syllabus as well.
DeniseiMac
01:07:45
Michelle Obama
Jill Fleisher
01:07:47
Obama
Gene Willet
01:07:49
Obama
Terry Martin
01:08:00
The Dalai Lama
Joey Oteng
01:08:05
Elizabeth Warren
Margaret Stiner
01:08:12
Trump
Jacqueline Zubin
01:08:13
AOC
Kelly Coble
01:08:15
Trump (negatively speaking)
Molly Swiger
01:08:17
Trump
Matthew Feinberg
01:08:19
Donald Trump
Karen Kaye
01:08:24
LeBron
Chisomo Selemani (she/her)
01:08:27
Kamala Harris
LLH
01:08:34
Unfortunately, I agree that it’s Trump.
jgarriso
01:08:36
an anonymous Twitter egg, a bot Insta account
James McCargar
01:08:59
Unfortunately, Trump
Christina Fuhrmann
01:09:01
determination
James McCargar
01:09:02
Empathy
Andrea Christoff
01:09:03
I hope empathy
Christie Needham (She/Her)
01:09:09
empathy
Joey Oteng
01:09:09
Rage
Tony Dick
01:09:09
Love
Indira Gesink
01:09:11
anxiety
Helen
01:09:13
Hope
Gene Willet
01:09:16
empathy
Tom Sutton
01:09:16
enthusiasm
Kelly Coble
01:09:17
Solidarity (aspirationally)
Annette Trierweiler
01:09:20
Joy
Margaret Stiner
01:09:23
Desire for justice
Karen Kaye
01:09:23
Fear is most powerful; love motivating
Matthew Feinberg
01:09:25
hope interwoven with cynicism . . ..
Gene Willet
01:09:27
hope
James McCargar
01:09:32
Awesome word Kelly....not used enough!
Jill Fleisher
01:09:40
Wish it was love, but it is fear.
jgarriso
01:09:58
weariness
Terry Martin
01:10:02
Joy
Erica Lull
01:10:04
uncertainty
Brennan Murphy
01:10:05
a newborn
Jessica Narum
01:10:06
burn-out
Brennan Murphy
01:10:08
tired
Lewis Sage
01:10:08
sclerotic
Rachel Paschal
01:10:09
jaded
Christie Needham (She/Her)
01:10:10
caution
Christa Jones
01:10:12
anxious
jgarriso
01:10:13
spent
Andrea Christoff
01:10:14
Stuck
Tony Dick
01:10:14
relevent
Mary Dobrea Grindahl
01:10:15
complacent
James McCargar
01:10:15
On the back 9
Kelly Coble
01:10:15
Decline in relevance!
Molly Swiger
01:10:15
cynical
Tom Sutton
01:10:16
uncertain
Indira Gesink
01:10:18
resigned
LLH
01:10:18
tired
Christina Fuhrmann
01:10:18
burnt out, I agree
Karen Kaye
01:10:18
weary or anxious
Annette Trierweiler
01:10:19
shortchanged
Laurie Willis
01:10:21
tentative
Gene Willet
01:10:23
overlooked
Joey Oteng
01:10:26
Conceited
Matthew Feinberg
01:10:30
self indulgent
Jill Fleisher
01:10:31
Anxious
DeniseiMac
01:10:33
worried
Lisa Henderson
01:10:34
overwhelmed
jgarriso
01:10:36
depleted
Andi Lyons
01:10:36
exhausted
Brennan Murphy
01:10:47
lavender
Julie Robinson
01:10:49
blue
Lewis Sage
01:10:50
Deep blue
Christie Needham (She/Her)
01:10:51
yellow
DeniseiMac
01:10:51
blue
Joey Oteng
01:10:51
Sage Green
Terry Martin
01:10:52
Rainbow
Tom Sutton
01:10:53
rainbow
Lisa Henderson
01:10:55
black
Karen Kaye
01:10:56
red
James McCargar
01:10:57
The brown of my wife's eyes
Mary Dobrea Grindahl
01:10:57
purple
Laurie Willis
01:10:58
red
Jessica Narum
01:10:58
Grass green
Julie Christman
01:10:58
purple
Andi Lyons
01:11:00
light blue
jgarriso
01:11:04
transparent
Gene Willet
01:11:05
blue
Indira Gesink
01:11:10
love has no color
Helen
01:11:14
no color
Tony Dick
01:11:15
Labatt's Blue
Gene Willet
01:11:27
nice Indira
Jason Keiber
01:11:28
lol
Jill Fleisher
01:11:28
Irridescent and shiny
Andrea Christoff
01:11:36
My newborn child
Brennan Murphy
01:11:37
a newborn
Indira Gesink
01:11:39
my three baby daughters
Tom Sutton
01:11:39
my wife
Lewis Sage
01:11:39
Rob (1st born)
Matthew Feinberg
01:11:40
birth of my children
Christina Fuhrmann
01:11:40
The alps
Lisa Henderson
01:11:41
rainbow
Erica Lull
01:11:41
my children
Annette Trierweiler
01:11:42
a baby
James McCargar
01:11:43
The birth of my children
Andi Lyons
01:11:43
my daughter
Karen Kaye
01:11:44
Grand Canyon made me cry
Christa Jones
01:11:45
my son
Amy Jo Sutterluety
01:11:47
Daughter
Kelly Coble
01:11:52
beetle
Julie Robinson
01:11:53
two people connecting and sparks flying
Tony Dick
01:11:57
kids
Terry Martin
01:11:58
The birth of my children, and the Tetons!
DeniseiMac
01:12:00
trees
Joey Oteng
01:12:11
An aiport reunion between loved one
Christa Jones
01:12:14
I am crying! this is amzing
James McCargar
01:12:16
The view of the Bay area from Mount Tam
Gene Willet
01:12:16
eyes of my newborn
Chisomo Selemani (she/her)
01:12:18
love and patience expressed even through conflict
Julie Christman
01:12:21
Watching my nieces learn to walk with the help of my dog
Jill Fleisher
01:12:36
Caring for those in need
Christie Needham (She/Her)
01:12:40
my child's laughter
James McCargar
01:13:29
What would you say if you DID know?
Kelly Coble
01:14:23
I like that, Joey, since as a professor my habit is to speak with authority, and this isn't always constructive for real discussion.
Lewis Sage
01:16:04
One great part of complete remote is that more students participate with each other, rather than through my mediation. Not sure where that fits…
Kelly Coble
01:17:12
Any thoughts, anybody, about group discussions in a physically distanced classroom? I am looking for solutions.
Lewis Sage
01:17:43
I just tell them to talk without raising hands
Karen Kaye
01:17:45
Ask "What is fair?" about the course processes, etc.
Andrea Christoff
01:18:27
Ask students what type of classroom environment they want
jgarriso
01:18:34
my own pronoun honoring approach (had students transitioning who find the mandatory pronoun introduction incredibly upsetting)
Tom Sutton
01:18:34
I have a split class (half F2F, half remote), and create groups involving both (2-4 students), and have them connect for discussion and to answer questions for class
Kelly Coble
01:18:35
Thanks!
James McCargar
01:18:48
Students working in teams outside of class seems to work better than working together during class.
Molly Swiger
01:18:50
Focus on our own learning (not policing others)
Kelly Coble
01:19:06
Good idea, Tom, though I don't have that format right now. Still, thanks.
Andrea Christoff
01:19:14
What can we (teachers and students) say or to encourage you to take risks and develop your ideas?
Gene Willet
01:19:20
providing equal time for all students in a discussion. this means cutting off long talkers (usually white males) and giving space and time to think for less talkers (usually minorities)
James McCargar
01:19:57
In the age of COVID, I'm using open communication (e-mail, text, GroupMe, polling on well-being)
Andrea Christoff
01:21:08
I agree with Gene about white males taking much of our discussion time. We have to bring this out in the open.
Andrea Christoff
01:22:33
This is a wonderful session, but I have to leave to teach. Thank you, Joey!
Chisomo Selemani (she/her)
01:22:53
Thank you Andrea!
Tom Sutton
01:22:54
Thanks for being part of this, Andrea!
Indira Gesink
01:30:16
How can we bring our most authentic self while masked? I feel like the classroom has become an emotional dead space because it's so hard to read masked faces.
Lewis Sage
01:31:45
Now we arrive at music of my era
Karen Kaye
01:31:50
beginner b/c things change quickly
James McCargar
01:32:02
Beginner
Terry Martin
01:32:10
What do you mean exactly by "self-defeating introspection" in your infographic?
Jill Fleisher
01:32:10
Intermediate
Julie Robinson
01:32:11
Intermediate
Indira Gesink
01:32:20
M. Are there books YOU recommend to increase our racial literacy?
Erica Lull
01:32:34
Beginner
Matthew Feinberg
01:32:42
Intermediate
Kelly Coble
01:32:45
Beginner. I think a few years ago I would have thought myself far more racially literate than I now recognize myself as being--lot's of self-deception encouraged, I think, by the cultural mainstream. I am at least literate enough to know I am a beginner, which is a philosopher's way of bragging (Socrates).
Annette Trierweiler
01:32:46
beginner
Tom Sutton
01:32:49
between intermediate and literate
Tony Dick
01:32:52
Beginner
Kelly Coble
01:35:25
I think the fact that most of my colleagues and neighbors are white speaks for itself.
Terry Martin
01:36:06
Thanks for sharing these experiences, Joey! White faculty need to be aware of these subtle and not-so-subtle pressures put on our own students of color.
Indira Gesink
01:36:11
It's interesting to be confronted with so many questions that I don't know how to answer.
Matthew Feinberg
01:36:19
I live in a community deeply shaped by structural racism.
Margaret Stiner
01:36:29
Guilt can be motivating
James McCargar
01:36:29
Thanks Indira...exactly where I'm at.
Karen Kaye
01:37:01
my community is diverse; i'm aware of my white privilege. my child is Asian; I feel their pain
Tom Sutton
01:37:07
imagine if the effort and resources BW put into preparing to open the campus in the COVID-19 environment were also committed to expanding the diversity of our faculty.
James McCargar
01:37:15
Feel like there is more for me to do yet feeling paralyzed by my privilege.
DeniseiMac
01:37:17
Race obviously affects me in profound ways as a white person, but I also experience privilege not to be aware or not to consider it
Christie Needham (She/Her)
01:38:05
I find my privilege sneaks up on me sometimes in ways I don't anticipate.
Gene Willet
01:38:57
Same Jim, i often fel paralyzed by my own privilege, the only why i know how todeal with this is to listen and not talk. but always feel like i should be saying more…
Beth Hiser
01:39:14
Tom, that’s a really interesting comment!
Tony Dick
01:40:30
While I have become more and more aware of the opportunities that may have come my way because of my race or social class, at times I find it frustrating that some of my accomplishments have been discounted as a result of this too.
DeniseiMac
01:41:16
Tom, yes! I want to imagine that scenario, and then move toward reality.
James McCargar
01:43:14
I'm starting to realize that I have a HUGE bias...that this is not the realm of the sciences...but I know that cannot be true.
Christie Needham (She/Her)
01:43:22
I think I know the trends but need to do better to impact the reality
Joey Oteng
01:43:34
Absolutely Tony - yes, how can we separate out our experiences with racial privilege versus ability, socioeconomic status, etc.
Andrew Watkins (he/him)
01:43:36
Within computing, we struggle mightily with attracting and supporting BIPOC as well as women students
Kelly Coble
01:44:05
Philosophy is a problem because the reading materials tend to have a huge white male and European bias, but equally the texts require a lot of "literacy" and this becomes an inclusiveness problem if many students just haven't been exposed to "readings" like this.
Lewis Sage
01:44:24
The quantitatively prepared do best. I wonder how our socializations create racial & gender gaps here.
Matthew Feinberg
01:44:25
Spanish programs have always had a problematic (but improving) relationship with heritage speakers. Many heritage speakers feel ashamed to be in low level spanish classes. Mocked by family members
Matthew Feinberg
01:44:42
and presumed to have proficiency because of their surname
Matthew Feinberg
01:45:34
I appreciate that comment about inclusivity and preparation Kelly.
Jill Fleisher
01:46:45
During COVID, it seems that African American students are struggling to cope more than other students. Besides expressing care and encouraging them to seek counseling, I'm not sure what else to do.
Karen Kaye
01:46:55
Acknowledge I know it exists and offer support
James McCargar
01:48:23
Agreed! Students often believe that they have to go it alone.
Indira Gesink
01:48:52
Encourage all students to reach out to me if circumstances outside of class are affecting their ability to perform. Share stories of how other students struggled and how I responded, so they know it's not just talk.
James McCargar
01:49:07
Sahre your narrative
James McCargar
01:49:10
Share
Kelly Coble
01:49:16
Good idea, Indira--and James.
Tom Sutton
01:50:01
great approach, Indira - helps establish authentic empathy and opens the door to possible helping relationships
Kelly Coble
01:54:05
The Reed quote is helpful. Racism should probably not be approached by whites as an opportunity for spiritual soul-searching and cleansing. Racism is not an occasion for redemption for white people, but greater empathy for black people.
Christina Fuhrmann
01:57:23
What is the one thing you most wish white professors had done or not done in your classes?
Tom Sutton
01:57:36
Intense, Joey! So much to think about
Annette Trierweiler
01:58:06
Thank you for your labor in cultivating all of these resources
Margaret Stiner
01:58:48
Thanks for a whole lot to think about, Joey.
Julie Robinson
01:58:50
I look forward to digging into these resources. Thank you for sharing.
jgarriso
01:59:08
Thanks for putting all of this together and your energy!
Kelly Coble
01:59:16
Joey, this just feels like it was one of the most essential workshops I have attended in a long time, and I have attended lots of great ones. Thanks for the clarity, candor, and empathy. Outstanding.
Terry Martin
01:59:25
I really appreciate your positive energy and your helpful resources!
Julie Robinson
01:59:28
Agreed, Kelly.
Brennan Murphy
01:59:33
Thank you, Joey!
DeniseiMac
02:00:06
Thank you so much—I feel like each infographic could be another workshop!
Annette Trierweiler
02:00:20
at the beginning of a journey
Kelly Coble
02:00:24
More courage about being vulnerable in the classroom.
Sungeun Kim
02:00:42
Agreed, Joey. It is amazing to share the power of forgiveness - forgiving and being forgiven - with one another. Thank you for a wonderful session. I learned so much and look forward to learning more!
Mary Dobrea Grindahl
02:00:52
Inspired and overwhelmed - so much to think about and act on. It helps me feel better prepared for conversations.
Amy Larocca
02:01:00
I feel like I really need to sit with this and really digest it. I so appreciate all of the details within this conversation/presentation. You provided words for responses and conversational starters for situations I've found challenging before. Thank you so much for all of this information and presenting in the manner in which you did! It was honest and extremely applicable for where I'm at with my journey with this! THANK YOU!!!
Erica Lull
02:01:17
Thank you!
Julie Christman
02:01:30
Thank you
Tony Dick
02:01:31
Looking forward to taking some of these resources into my FYE sessions. Thanks!!
Andi Lyons
02:01:33
Thank you!
Rachel Paschal
02:01:40
thank you!
Christa Jones
02:02:08
THANK YOU!!! Just outstanding work. You are a gift, Joey.
Karen Kaye
02:02:10
Thanks, Joey. Impactful session
Tom Sutton
02:03:14
Thanks, everyone, for engaging in this experience!
Joey Oteng
02:03:22
You're so welcome!
Indira Gesink
02:04:40
Wow, that's a lot of info. I look forward to examining your slides and sitting with some of those questions. Thank you!
Karen Kaye
02:04:45
I wonder if people need on going support going forward. Do you have suggestions on how to move collectively forward?
Matthew Feinberg
02:09:28
Thank you! I need to run.
Jill Fleisher
02:10:16
May I share your Common Racist Attitudes with my students?
Karen Kaye
02:10:21
yes, I think impact comes from the number of folks who are acting.
Joey Oteng
02:10:54
Yes! Jill feel free!
Indira Gesink
02:10:54
I have suggested before that maybe our campus common readings could be books that help us identify and counter racism. I'm not sure what the readings are for this year. Lisa?
Joey Oteng
02:10:59
Any resources here for you to use!
Karen Kaye
02:11:09
If students can have at least one faculty (or one more) who interacts this way, we can move the needle.
Tom Sutton
02:11:17
Joey - if you were applying for a teaching position at a university like BW, what would be the most important element of the place for you to say yes or no to an offer?
Lisa Henderson
02:11:23
Thanks, Joey for a wealth of resources and an energetic and sincere session. We remain appreciative of our faculty like Chisomo and Tom who help us to keep these important and critical conversations on the front-burner. We recognize the learning curve, but many of us are determined to strive to make a difference. This work is important not just in our professional day to day experiences, but in our place in this world.
Joey Oteng
02:11:32
Yes! I am telling you the faculty who have shown up in this way have been transformative for me
Karen Kaye
02:13:19
Need to sign off. Thanks, Joey. Great to see my BW colleague again.
Lisa Henderson
02:14:45
Indira, I sent an email about the common reading today. We are reading Trevor Noah's book this year.
Indira Gesink
02:15:06
Thanks, Lisa.
Jill Fleisher
02:16:16
My courses will be positively impacted by this session. Thank you Joey.
Lisa Henderson
02:16:29
Thanks, again. Off to the next meeting!
Chisomo Selemani (she/her)
02:17:03
Thank you Lisa!!!
Tom Sutton
02:17:29
THanks, Lisa!
Lalene Kay
02:17:41
This has been a motivating and energizing 90 minutes. Deep appreciation…
Joey Oteng
02:18:31
Thank you Lisa
Indira Gesink
02:19:23
Thanks, I've just been hanging out to catch wisdom offered in response to others' questions. Time to feed my kids.
Tom Sutton
02:19:23
THanks, Joey!
Joey Oteng
02:20:36
Thank you Indira!